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Topic: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

The Government wish to introduce laws making it a legal requirement to insist anyone applying or re-applying for an entertainment license must have a noise control device fitted to the venue. This will be the final nail in the coffin for all entertainment in the UK.

Please sign the Government petition against this fun-stopping hair-brained idea!

Most of you already know what these evil devices are but for those of you who don't, they're a cut-off device that switches off power to the sound system if a band or performer is too loud. In some circumstances this might not seem like such a bad idea, but in reality the powers that be that decide on what the threshold is for the unit to activate itself do not yet understand how to implement a realistic and viable method of such control. Noise levels are an extremely complicated and extremely variable measurement to consider. No two venues are the same (even if they try to be).

For those who have not mixed a show with one of these devices in place, in my experience an acoustic drum kit un-amplified can cause them to cut the power.


Sign the petition on the UK government website before 23rd January by going to:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NoNoiseControl/

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2 Reply by JamesTRubotnik (edited by JamesTRubotnik 2009-01-15 12:31:50)

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

sounds like a half assed attempt at a technical solution to a cultural "problem" to me. really hope this bill doesn't pass. i'm not a brit so unfortunately i can't sign the petition. will cross my fingers tho.

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

The Pub where I do my monthly gig has that. Very annoying and also very weird. That thing does not only cut off the power when it's too loud, but fucks up the sound as well.

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

i remember seeing some photo artbook of just technohippies traveling the country side in busses with giant speaker systems and throwing parties in the middle of nowhere. thats the way it has to be.

clubs and city venues are lame..especially if you live next to these fucking places that host assclowns like that trance dude whatshisface

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

ratsnake wrote:

i remember seeing some photo artbook of just technohippies traveling the country side in busses with giant speaker systems and throwing parties in the middle of nowhere. thats the way it has to be.
...

check out the Spiral-Tribe/Network23/SP23, also because of them this law passed in 1994:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_J … r_Act_1994

The Act specifically defines "music" to include "sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats."

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

Signed, sealed, delivered...

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7 Reply by computerdisco (edited by computerdisco 2009-01-15 16:29:17)

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

ratsnake wrote:

i remember seeing some photo artbook of just technohippies traveling the country side in busses with giant speaker systems and throwing parties in the middle of nowhere. thats the way it has to be.

clubs and city venues are lame..especially if you live next to these fucking places that host assclowns like that trance dude whatshisface

Can we keep this on topic, its really quite important. (dont mean to be a kiljoy but this will fuck up all our parties here)

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

"This will be the final nail in the coffin for all entertainment in the UK" - a very strong statement to make.

Most 'big' clubs in the UK already have them fitted.

It will be very hard to enforce if you're hiring an empty building and bringing your own sound in.

Sorry to be a killjoy.

You're Fucking Out, I'm Fucking In

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

geez it's audio castration. i hope that doesn't get passed for you uk'ers.

is there a way to hack the device so it makes everything twice as loud? smile

worship the potentiometer.

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

computerdisco wrote:

The Government wish to introduce laws making it a legal requirement to insist anyone applying or re-applying for an entertainment license must have a noise control device fitted to the venue. This will be the final nail in the coffin for all entertainment in the UK.

Please sign the Government petition against this fun-stopping hair-brained idea!

Most of you already know what these evil devices are but for those of you who don't, they're a cut-off device that switches off power to the sound system if a band or performer is too loud. In some circumstances this might not seem like such a bad idea, but in reality the powers that be that decide on what the threshold is for the unit to activate itself do not yet understand how to implement a realistic and viable method of such control. Noise levels are an extremely complicated and extremely variable measurement to consider. No two venues are the same (even if they try to be).

For those who have not mixed a show with one of these devices in place, in my experience an acoustic drum kit un-amplified can cause them to cut the power.


Sign the petition on the UK government website before 23rd January by going to:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NoNoiseControl/

whats the max amount of db's this system can take?

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11 Reply by casionova

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

iamelectron wrote:

"This will be the final nail in the coffin for all entertainment in the UK" - a very strong statement to make.

Most 'big' clubs in the UK already have them fitted.

It will be very hard to enforce if you're hiring an empty building and bringing your own sound in.

Sorry to be a killjoy.

happily signed the petition as those stupid auto-compressing boxes are the bane of my life... but got to agree with iamelectron, they'll have to do better than that if they want to stop the rock n roll! smile

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

iamelectron wrote:

"This will be the final nail in the coffin for all entertainment in the UK" - a very strong statement to make.

Most 'big' clubs in the UK already have them fitted.

It will be very hard to enforce if you're hiring an empty building and bringing your own sound in.

Sorry to be a killjoy.

When is the next Robot Disco terror !

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

Leo Slayer wrote:
iamelectron wrote:

"This will be the final nail in the coffin for all entertainment in the UK" - a very strong statement to make.

Most 'big' clubs in the UK already have them fitted.

It will be very hard to enforce if you're hiring an empty building and bringing your own sound in.

Sorry to be a killjoy.

When is the next Robot Disco terror !

when we can find an empty building wink

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

Signed
Didnt even know these things existed.

Bit of a buzz killer for mid reach-for-the-lazers breakdowns.

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

signed

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

iamelectron wrote:
Leo Slayer wrote:
iamelectron wrote:

"This will be the final nail in the coffin for all entertainment in the UK" - a very strong statement to make.

Most 'big' clubs in the UK already have them fitted.

It will be very hard to enforce if you're hiring an empty building and bringing your own sound in.

Sorry to be a killjoy.

When is the next Robot Disco terror !

when we can find an empty building wink

big_smile

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

signed.

Was about to rant about the state of the nation/ fascist/ paternalistic/ ignorant/ don't actually give a shit about you, the people, but we say we do/ money spunking government, but i can't be bothered.

ee

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18 Reply by IvyHeights (edited by IvyHeights 2009-01-17 21:10:18)

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Re: Uk Bots only! No Noise Control Please sign...

sounds gay but sayiong that over zealous dj's really ruin my ears

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