Buying an analog desk, need help! (Page 2 of 2)

nice find, i recorded a lot of my early bunkers on an 18 channel d&r 700..

great, you're welcome.

welcome to the d&r owners club!

Has anyone got any experience with Mitec Joker?
There's not much info on it on the net.
I've been offered one for 600eur, 24ch.

Thank you. So how much do you think it's worth?

Thanks. Also I just found out that the muting doesn't work, so I'll pass on it.
The quest continues.

Not necessarily, depends what the meters are related / calibrated to, or something like that .. Somebody more technical minded could give explanation ..

Mule, does the channel where you feed the 0db signal read -7db?

The thing is Mule Driver that normally digital and analog meters are different. So if you send 0dbfs (digital) to your mixer from Logic it's not 0dbvu (analog) on the mixer.

dBVU is what an analog mixer uses for reference, 0dBVU would be where the mixer works at it’s optimum. Noise is the least, while having enough output to drive the sound card.
dBFS is what a digital sound card uses for reference. 0dBFS is where the sound card will reach it’s maximum and if pushed beyond that it will badly distort. There is no “optimum” level in the digital realm per se, as long as you are above 16-bits of usage.

You should check your soundcards manual and also Mackies manual I guess .. I don't know if in this case the Mackie is kaputt, do you get enough signal when plugging in synths etc?

Normally it's kind of 'agreed' that -18dbfs digital would show 0dbvu on analog. That way you have plenty of headroom, and if you want to ride your analog mixer channels a bit harder (even to distortion) you have room too so you don't overload your converters going above 0dbfs. So that's a good way to calibrate the meters, set your tone at the logic -18, then cal your VU's to 0. It's not a rule set in stone though but a good practise

Milan, I think that Soundcraft is the same model we have in the main theatre I work in at uni - definitely one of the best boards if not the best we have in the school. Ran a live show with mics, radio mics, a quadrophonic system & a stereo system, delays all that crap through it. We use it for the dance seasons which generally have the biggest system design. Sorry this is probably of no use to you now haha