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Done. The official RFR Graff thread: http://www.robotsforrobots.net/viewtopic.php?id=5542
great! shall enjoy it 
@ black shape - would still love to know your thoughts/opinions about Mode2 and Futura and whether they're 'art' or not... I wouldn't feel that a lot of that stuff would be appropriate in a graffiti thread. I really couldn't say exactly where it fits in myself!
Neil Spiller is an architect. The illustrations are of projects that use ideas of enabling, cyberspace, nanotechnology,
cybernetics, molecular science and genetics and translate them into architectural projects that
vary from masterplan to furniture in scale.
i would say they are more at home in the graffiti thread,
but from those couple of photos you posted its hard to tell.
my first thought is of german expressionists like max beckmann 
because of the tighly packed space with styalised figures.
then i thought of his line, it reminds me of egon schiele, kind of skeletal, and again styalised 
is he drawing like this to deliberatley reference those two? i dont think so. both those guys are quite well known, im sure most graffiti writers would have walked past a book on Schiele while they were stealing subway art, so if he is an 'artist' we can safley say, he does know both these painters. is he just not noticing the expressionist style he is using, or just not put it to any interesting use? both those other painters were born in the end of the 19th century.
so i think he draws like that because it looks nice, its aesthetically pleasing basically.
also the subject matter is easy, way too easy, or is he just making nice pictures?
and that first pic of futura is basically jackson pollock reference, thats blatantly obvious. so lets see how he updtaes on pollocks work 
well the first thing is he uses a spray can instead of oil paint, so i guess that makes it contemporary? but where is the art?
and is it really contemporary, being as Pollock was doing the same thing over half a century ago?
so again to me its decoration, or a nice picture (well actually those colours are horrible, you must all be blind! haha)
his work on a wall to me is much better
So is the logic that because they worked on the floor using broad movements with their arms it's the same thing? The two pieces look totally different and used different tools. The gestures made to achieve each artist's work are also different. He may have referenced Pollock, intentional or not, but Pollock also was influenced by other artists and movements, like Mexican muralism.
its like hating on electro-haus producers cuz they dont know enough about "real electro" to call it electro. same idea
So is the logic that because they worked on the floor using broad movements with their arms it's the same thing? The two pieces look totally different and used different tools. The gestures made to achieve each artist's work are also different. He may have referenced Pollock, intentional or not, but Pollock also was influenced by other artists and movements, like Mexican muralism.
i didnt say it was the same thing, but thats a reference wether you or he likes it or not, from the viewpoint that its contemporary art. but then i dont think its contemporary art so its ok 
@cebteq to me its more like the sonic art/ music scale. i just dont see the scope and depth i see in contemporary art, in graffiti, but thats not why i look at graffiti, i look at them for totally different reason, also i htink pretty much theyre made for different reasons. theyre just different.
I agree, i liked graffiti as a kid but now it's just a nuisance where i live. everyone sucks! its like dude at least say something if youre gonna write on the wall. something besides look at me. graffiti as propaganda ftw
@black shape -
but basically although you don't feel they're particularly good contemporary artists, you seem to be implying that it is contemporary art of a sort? whether it's any good or not is surely in the eye of the beholder....
I agree with Communicator, good points there. I'd even go so far as to say that any artist (of any sort) who claims to be entirely original without drawing influence from anywhere else is either deluded or lying! but I can see your point that exactly what you do with that influence determines if it's good or not. but 'good or not' isn't the question so much as 'contemporary art or not'...
no thats not what i mean, no one is original anyway, thats law now
but basically if you look at it from the point of view of contemporary art, it doesnt work. when you look at it as graffiti it does work.
fair do's, think I get where you're coming from even if I'm still not quite sure I entirely agree personally... but I do see your line of reasoning and for what it's worth it's the most intelligently argued I've heard on the subject from the "art" point of view yet
was just reading up about the Robbo vs Banksy thing, hilarious!
itso and adams on the other hand, i think that stuff is brilliant.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA2SUjTmCR0[/youtube]
Bruce Nauman - Raw Materials
Sound collage exhibit in the Turbine Hall of Tate Modern. A collection of unidirectional sounds spread along the length of the hall.
ansel krut
jost muenster
Went to the Whitechapel Art Gallery yesterday and watched Charly Nijensohn’s film The Dead Forest (Storm) and Pink and White Terraces by Nova Paul. Both very good.
Pretty cool staple art. No info on the artist though
it´s Baptiste Debombourg, name of the piece is Air Force One and it´s made out of 35000 staples.
http://www.baptistedebombourg.com
Lars Lerin, amazing aquarels
Yeah, he's great.
I saw his exhibition in Stockholm (at Waldemarsudde) some year ago.
I love the way he uses different tones of darkness, unlike most aquarel (watercolour) artists.
Like in this painting:
Another one:
Call it art or whatever.
I spotted this car today when i was out for a run at lunch:
So long gay boys? WTF?
It is.
I think it's attached to the bumper too.
I wonder what they have been dragging after the car...
Felice Varini.
There is a documentary about him on Arte in january (available online during 7 days) : http://plus7.arte.tv/fr/detailPage/1697 … =4734.html
He's invited to an collective exhibit in Paris about the space : Phase z
I designed a book about felice varini for lars muller publishers
It is.
I think it's attached to the bumper too.
I wonder what they have been dragging after the car...
Gayboys obviously.
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